Interview to David Perrotta
What do you do for a living and why?
I do a mix of things. For me, it’s always good to have a few plates spinning so I have multiple sources of income. That way if one source of income dries up, I’m still covered.
Here are the sources of my income:
- Amazon Kindle sales (mostly from my book, Conversation Casanova, which has sold nearly 10k copies and counting in 9 months)
- Copywriting (email marketing, sales pages, long-form content writing)
- Digital Product sales (from the courses on my site)
- Skype coaching
- In-person coaching conferences/events
I can do all of these from anywhere in the world, so my schedule is always flexible. That allows me to live in any country that I choose, go on spontaneous adventures, and make money while I sleep.
Why didn't you choose the simple way, a 9 to 5 job?
I got a bachelor’s degree in accounting, so originally I was set to take on the 9-5 corporate path. But after an internship at an accounting firm and a few other 9-5 cubicle jobs, I quickly realized that wasn’t the life I wanted.
What I really craved was:
- The ability to make an impact
- A lifestyle of passive income
I didn’t want anyone to be able to “put me in a box”.
With the 9-5 lifestyle, none of those things were really possible - at least not to the full extent.
You can see how I really felt about it from a blog post I wrote nearly 5 years ago:
This is a heartfelt post written back when I didn’t really know what the hell I was doing with my life. I knew I wanted the type of life I have now, but I just didn’t quite know how to achieve it at that time.
It’s a post a lot of people have vibed with, and it has even inspired others to quit their jobs and pursue a life of freedom and adventure.
When did you decide to change your life?
I decided to change my life soon after college once I realized that the “beaten path” was not the path for me.
I remember one moment specifically: My mom was sick in the hospital and had taken a turn for the worst (she’s okay now!), and they didn’t know if she’d make it. My dad called me to tell me the news, while I was sitting at a cubicle at my job.
I realized at that point how short life really is. I was wasting my time and putting off living the life I truly wanted to live. But at that moment, I knew the time for waiting was over.
I walked out of the office to go the hospital, and I never returned. That was the last day I ever worked a typical 9-5 job.
Did you have a mentor when you started?
There wasn’t one specific mentor. But I made it a point to surround myself with successful people. Back then, I was in a weekly mastermind group with 6 other entrepreneurs from Boston. We’d chat every Sunday, discuss ideas, and make plans for our futures and our businesses.
That mastermind taught me a lot. Then when I moved to Saigon, Vietnam, I immediately plugged into the entrepreneur “digital nomad” community there, filled with international online entrepreneurs. I learned tons from all those people and I’ve traveled the world with some of them afterwards.
That mastermind and my time in Vietnam laid the groundwork for the connections and the success I’ve been able to achieve in the time since. You really are the average of the 5 people you spend the most time with.
How did you start and grow your business?
I started PostGradCasanova around 5 years ago, around the idea that a lot of guys coming out of college had trouble interacting with and dating girls (since the dynamics are a lot different after college).
In the time since, it’s involved into a resource for helping guys flirt and master conversation, internalize winning mindsets, and take complete control of their lives.
It’s been a journey and I definitely wasn’t as consistent as I should have been with the blog for the first few years. But over the last 2 years I’ve kicked it up a notch and really turned it into a go-to website for men looking to improve their dating lives (and their lives in general).
Here are some of the big things that have helped me grow the business:
- Writing long-form content targeting SEO keywords (this has gotten me tons and tons of traffic)
- Going viral on Reddit over and over again
- Launching products the right way
- Creating the Conversation Casanova book which was a big turning point
- Staying consistent
Do you think you achieved success? If yes, what's your secret for it?
I’ve definitely achieved some level of success in that I have a lifestyle I love, I’m surrounded by awesome people, I’m making good money, and I have complete freedom over my time.
That being said, there are always more levels of success, and I still have a long way to go in a lot of areas.
But as for a secret? It really is all about the process, as well as knowing in the back of your mind that you’re going to make it happen.
Back when I first started, everybody doubted me. Hell, I lived at home for nearly a year and people called me a loser, questioned my sanity, and looked down on me. It wore on me quite a bit, and I definitely had some rough periods.
But I always knew I’d make it happen. I knew I was going for the risky path that most people would never take, and I knew I had to leave my ego at the door. But I also knew that if I could survive and make it out the other side, I’d have a life that most people dream of.
This is not an easy journey, so it’s no wonder most people don’t take it. Know that difficulties and challenges will come and they’ll hit you hard - but there’s always a way to overcome them.
Do you have an advice for who is just starting?
A lot of the advice I have boils down to what I wrote in this post:
Most people don’t take into account the lifestyles they really want when choosing what to do with their lives. They try and “do what they love” but then realize the lifestyle doesn’t align with their values, and they even start to hate the thing they once loved.
Instead, you should:
- Determine your desired lifestyle (for me, that was freedom, wealth, health, and great relationships)
- Figure out how to fit your passions into that lifestyle (writing is a big passion of mine, which first perfectly into me writing books and blogging)
- Be willing to sacrifice up front. Like I said, it won’t be easy, especially in the beginning. Be willing to take an ego hit in order to set yourself up for long-term success. I promise you it’ll be worth it.
Other than this, I also suggest looking at life as a game. Sure, you can take the safe route, but that doesn’t make the game fun. Instead, why not experiment, go all out, and see what awesome things you can build, accomplish, and experience?
And finally, for a step-by-step guide to achieve a location-independent lifestyle, check out this post:
I know in the last year you wrote a book, tell us a bit about it...
Yes - the book is called:
In it, you’ll learn how to talk to girls and get them attracted, how to start conversations, how to flirt, and a lot more.
You’ll also learn the most important mindsets you need to succeed with women as well as in life in general.
I truly feel like there’s no other book quite like this out there. I cut the BS and give it to you straight.
Where can people reach you?
You can reach me at my website, PostGradCasanova.com.
You can also tweet at me @gradcasanova, and hit me up on Instagram @gradcasanova as well.
And as a thank you for reading this interview, I’m giving you access to my free video series where I teach you about flirting, conversation, and the conversation mistakes you absolutely need to avoid. Click the link below to get access!
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